Thanks to the Opinionated Democrat
IT A GORRAM TREE THATS WHAT IT IS. Adopted by many different religions PROBABLY BECAUSE ITS THE ONLY GENERAL COLORFUL THING LEFT DURING THE WINTER MONTHS BECAUSE EVER GREEN….
Pagan did not invent trees. Christians did not invent trees. Trees have been decorated for many different things and this just needs to STOP.
I just still think it’s funny that so many of the Fundie-type Christians don’t seem to know the origins of most Christian holidays, though. So I laughed.
And also not sorry.
But also see what you mean.
Everything in life is so freaking complicated though.
Best wishes for everybody with whatever they celebrate, whenever and however they celebrate it.
Actually, Christmas is it’s own holiday in general. Completely seperate from the pagan holidays it’s celebrated near.
Here, let me learn ya somethin’…
Christians placed Christmas next to the pagan holidays, hoping to ease pagans into converting. Now, when the pagans DID convert, they brought some of their traditions and festivities for the season, which is why there are trees and a yule log, etc.
So no, Christian holidays are not “based off of” or “stolen from” Pagan ones… they stand alone, and were created for their religion, not made to model another. The similarities in customs is because when people converted, they brought over their old customs.
Do I need to say it again in a different way, or are we gettin’ it?
DIFFERENT HOLIDAYS! COMPLETELY SEPARATE! NOT STOLEN OR ORIGINATING FROM ANY OTHER HOLIDAY!
OK, so now I am sorry, because yeah, actually, I DO know what you said, but there’s actually a fine line there. And I didn’t want to go into all the depth, because I just don’t have time to check and recheck every word I say for accuracy.
I wish I never reblogged it.
I feel like an idiot when I’m not.
I get it.
I just didn’t say it.
So, actually I am more sorry than ever.
I just hate language some days.
Don’t feel bad, K. Birthdays originated in part from the Roman custom of celebrating the god ruling the day you were born. The Saturnalia was the Roman festival of the Sun’s “birthday,” or rather, rebirth.
Adopting an idea from one religion or philosophy and retooling it to suit your own is not coming up with a new religious idea separate and independent from its parent religion. We even have a word for what it is: syncretism.
Don’t apologize for being right, Kathleen, just because someone else doesn’t like it.
Another fun fact: the first-century Christians were vehemently against syncretism, to the point of refusing to adopt circumcision as a religious tenet from their anthropological forebear — Judaism — even though they believed the Jewish God and their own was the same Person. They didn’t celebrate their own birthdays or Christ’s or the sun’s (Saturnalia), and refused to participate in worship of Caesar, which was seen as nothing more or less than a patriotic ceremony by which you proved your allegiance to the State. This earned them a reputation among Romans as being haters of humankind, and contributed to their persecution.